CNN Chris Cummer On Friday, the chairman of the American Conservative Party (ACU), Matt Schlapp, had a heated exchange on unconfirmed allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 presidential election.
Cuomo is talking with Schrapp about the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) event in Dallas, Texas. ACU organizes CPAC and predecessors President Donald Trump will deliver a speech Was there on Sunday. Their conversation lasted about 12 minutes.
Cuomo asked why CPAC will focus on voter fraud in 2020. Schrapp argued that there was fraud in the last presidential election, saying that the signatures on the mailed ballots had not been verified in Georgia and Clark County, Nevada. Trump made these claims at the end of 2020, and fact checkers debunked these claims.
Cuomo refuted Schrapp’s claim of voter fraud, and the conversation quickly became combative.
“Say there is fraud doesn’t mean-even if you are right, well, according to your own assertion-you didn’t check all the boxes you should do,” Cuomo said.
“I’m not saying you are right, and no court says you are right. And all the suggestions that prove you will prove this over time have not been met. But even so, it is not fraud. And it No “This does not mean that the election was stolen. However, the people at CPAC chanted,’Trump won. The election was rigged. ‘Do you really believe it? Trump won? “
“I think what we should do in the United States is to follow the voting rules,” Schrapp said.
“with What did the secretary of state do in Georgia He is a Republican — not a Republican like me — but he signed an illegal consent order that does not check and verify the signatures of people who voted by mail due to the coronavirus. Our postal voting reached the highest level in history. “
According to a fact check conducted by the Associated Press (AP) in November of that year, the consent order was signed in March 2020 and did not prevent the verification of the signature of the mailed ballot.
Cuomo replied: “But you don’t know of fraud.”
“Yes, I know. Because now, you are using the word fraud…” Shrap said.
“No, you used the word fraud. CPAC used the word fraud. Not me. I used the word you used,” Cuomo interjected.
“Let me use these words,” Schrapp replied. “I’m talking. I’m talking. Why don’t you let me use words? What I want to tell you is that if you do not verify the signature on the mailed ballot, especially if you are in some cases, the number of mailed ballots will be reversed. Times, this is inducing fraud, and these votes may be illegal votes.”
As Schrapp continued to speak, Cuomo began to say Republicans People in Georgia say they will conduct the election correctly.Schrapp said Cuomo was wrong CNN The host insisted that he was not.
Then the two went back and forth, often talking to each other, because Schrapp claimed fraud, which Cuomo dismissed.
In the end, Cuomo said: “I don’t understand why you put your conservative platform on this. You really believe This is how to win the midterm exam Maybe the next president is trying to create doubts about democracy? “
Schrapp denied that this was the concern of CPAC and emphasized the fact that its theme is “America has not cancelled.” However, their exchanges continue.
“The facts are not good for you,” Cuomo said. “What I don’t understand is why you want to present a case to the American people that you know is based on a lie. Why do you propose CPAC for this big lie instead of all other things you can argue about?
Schlapp defended CPAC again and mentioned the COVID-19 restrictions, which led to another conflict with Cuomo. The ACU chairman went on to say that he was not popular on CNN, while Cuomo said he was “popular” on the Internet.
Weekly newspaper The Conservative League of America has been asked to comment.